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Author:  kman [ 24 Feb 2011, 23:32 ]
Post subject:  gear box; will any other mistubishi fit?

Hey there my gear box is stuffed
i need a new one, are there any other mitsubishi gear box's that
will fit straight onto an ab gsr?

Author:  TRQ-STR [ 25 Feb 2011, 00:08 ]
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I have 5 gsr gearboxes for sale, send me a pm if interested.

Author:  gsr-007 [ 25 Feb 2011, 18:55 ]
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magna gox will mate but you will have to cut the rail from what i have heard in some cases.

but then you can run magna gear shift links witch make changing much better

Author:  kman [ 02 Mar 2011, 20:27 ]
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cheers good to know that

Author:  PSI-GSR [ 03 Mar 2011, 18:58 ]
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Proton Satria boxes fit also i think.

Author:  kman [ 15 Apr 2011, 10:46 ]
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mad shit

Author:  newy vr4 [ 29 Apr 2011, 19:57 ]
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Quote:
gsr-007
Post subject: Re: gear box; will any other mistubishi fit?

magna gox will mate but you will have to cut the rail from what i have heard in some cases.

but then you can run magna gear shift links witch make changing much better

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:55 pm




i was going to heavily modify to fit evo box, but to much messy work.
is that the ts/tr magna gearbox that 5th sin is running or a older tn/tp gearbox that u are talking about. i think i will be trying to fit a ts manual box soon, apparently fto lsd's fit in them as well.

Author:  gsr18 [ 12 May 2011, 11:37 ]
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I fitted a vr4 box and 4g63 in my cordia. Had to cut the chassis rail to make it fit and lots of grinding on different parts of the gearbox to clear the power steering etc.

Just about to try and fit a gearbox from a 93 glxi lancer as I ditched the 4g63 and am fitting a 4g92 mivec engine. I will keep you posted as to how well it fits.

Author:  newy vr4 [ 17 May 2011, 20:45 ]
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awesome mate, good luck with mivec project as well.

Author:  Bitza [ 20 May 2011, 20:40 ]
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I have just purchased a TR-TS magna gearbox.......from what it can see they are 15mm longer but 30mm wider for the diff casting.

This SHOULD clear the cordia chassis rails as there is 5mm to play with, the only downside is the cable shift and offset of the driveshafts.

Author:  Bitza [ 20 May 2011, 21:49 ]
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For all of you who MAY need to replace the cordia box here is a quick update:

The TR-TS magna box or Proton Satria MAY fit the cordia.

So far I have installed the TR-TS box onto a narrow block VR4.

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The only problem is the cordia passenger side CV won't clear the block...........time for equal length drive.

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The stater motor now has to throw out another 15mm, which will need to be a magna reduction drive unit.

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I'll keep you updated on progress.

Author:  PSI-GSR [ 21 May 2011, 14:36 ]
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Is this profect going to end up in Bitza Andrew?

Author:  Bitza [ 21 May 2011, 14:51 ]
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Most probably............not too sure the original gearbox will last!

Need to do more research though..........the driveshafts are actually 10mm higher in the box, plus I need the shifter and cables.

Author:  Bitza [ 22 May 2011, 17:25 ]
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The magna box looks like a NO GO.........after some measurements here is what I have come up with:

Gearbox mount needs to be moved forward by 15mm to fit the original mount, this leaves 45mm of the rear extension housing to fit..........the cordia only has another 15mm between the rails, leaving me to find another 30mm.......it's too long.

The other trouble is the shift rails, they actually sit hard on the bottom radiator hose.......even though this can be engineered out, with a 104mm mouth on the turbo the linkage will hit the induction pipe and jam on the rad pipe!

Plus my air to water intercooler won't fit as it fouls the shift cables..........AH well time to look at a Proton Satria GTI box.

Author:  TRQ-STR [ 22 May 2011, 23:55 ]
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Good work Andrew, hope the proton box works for you!

Any chance of there being another variant of the magna box which might fit? maybe the Tp box?

Or, why not another cordia box?

Author:  Bitza [ 23 May 2011, 08:54 ]
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TRQ-STR wrote:
Any chance of there being another variant of the magna box which might fit? maybe the Tp box?


Thanks Koray,
Might have a look, but the TP's are getting old now.....might be hard to find one without syncro problems.......the project was only to see if another box will fit.......I'll keep trying though.

Author:  newy vr4 [ 24 May 2011, 23:14 ]
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damn it! The biggest drama there is the chasis rail..

Quote:
Gearbox mount needs to be moved forward by 15mm to fit the original mount, this leaves 45mm of the rear extension housing to fit..........the cordia only has another 15mm between the rails, leaving me to find another 30mm.......it's too long.



The rear extension housing you are talking about is the end cap cover, which covers the viscous gears that everyone welds up to make a locker? does it sit under the rail? The gearbox mount can be modified surely?

i wonder how 5th sin did it, maybe he chopped the rail..

Author:  newy vr4 [ 24 May 2011, 23:19 ]
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maybe if you can modify that end cap so it doesnt protude as much. I dont know, just throwing ideas around.. That is it a 4 cyc ts/tr gearbox? apparently there are differences. It's the one thing that really annoys me about the cordia, bloody gearbox..

If people need syncro rings i was able to get some from germany.

Author:  Bitza [ 25 May 2011, 10:43 ]
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I'm still "messing" around with it............the mount is the easy part.........mainly looking at passenger side driveshaft as the magna intermediate shaft is compulsory, as normal CV's won't fit due to design......need to determine whether the magna shaft will bolt to the VR4 block and it's overall length.

Every other TR-TS box I have looked at is the same............early TM - TP may be different.

I'll have a good look when I'm at the wreckers next time.

Author:  sleeping giant [ 25 May 2011, 12:59 ]
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HI, anyone tried a TP magna auto on a vr4 motor? Do they bolt together? I want to try this combo in a 86 colt im going to try and make work.

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